Comments on: To MFA or Not To MFA, That Is NOT The Question

By: Charlene

Charlene — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:27:28 +0000

I agree with ANNB2, please don’t teach as a last resort. It’s a disservice to the kids. I actually love teaching and am pursuing my MFA not only to improve my writing, but so I can teach students who actually want to learn.

By: Tanya Paperny

Tanya Paperny — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:06:07 +0000

Ditto. Sigh.

By: AnnB2

AnnB2 — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:48:33 +0000

“if I can not do whatever it is I want to when I am done with my MFA, then maybe, just maybe I will teach.” Do yourself and prospective students a favor and DON’T TEACH. Wait tables with enthusiasm, design gardens or move furniture. Then you will have something to write about that others may find interesting. The world does not need more teachers who would rather be doing something else.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:57:07 +0000

There are more uses than you think for an English major on the whole- especially creative writing. When I originally changed my major from Education, I was looking for a something I loved doing and learned far more about the field then I probably intended. With an MFA you can do any form of editing for publishing companies, magazines, etc. but almost all require a masters degree. It is also possible to do speech writing or advertising. It was actually quite amazing the length of things I discovered an English major with a concentration in Creative Writing can do; it is no longer all about teaching.
I consider teaching my EXTREME fallback; if I can not do whatever it is I want to when I am done with my MFA, then maybe, just maybe I will teach.

By: Leigh Anne

Leigh Anne — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:05:20 +0000

Excellent post – from my personal pov, as somebody who loves to write and wants to improve, but already has an M.A. and an MLLS, well…I need an MFA like a hole in the head. Also, those loans! Gah!

I’ve been working through the exercises in The Portable MFA in Creative Writing (New York Writers Workshop) and enjoying it greatly; the introduction also discusses some reasons why you might or might not want an MFA.

By: SMD

SMD — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:59:01 +0000

The answer is both yes and no. Yes, you can teach some aspects of creative writing. You can teach people basic plot, basic writing skills (grammar, spelling, sentence structure), and basic storytelling. Kids, after all, learn most of this in regular school, and all MFA programs are supposed to be doing is take that to the logical extreme, with heavy crit workshops and a lot of studying of “good writing” (I think that last part is flawed, though, since “good writing” is inherently arbitrary and subject to the biases of the professor, rather than a collective understanding of the wide range of “good writing” out there).

On the other hand, however, you can’t teach people to be “good” writers. By that I mean that you can’t teach someone how to write good stories, good characters, or fiction that is “publishable.” You can facilitate the learning of those things, but most of what makes writers good has to do with a natural skill. Most people cannot be good writers. A lot of people can be adequate writers, and some are simple terrible at it and are better suited to other things. All we can teach in MFA programs are basic skills; the role of the MFA program is more to provide an avenue to fine-tune implied talent.

At least, that’s how I see it. My problem with MFA programs is that they are essentially useless in the real world. Once you graduate, all you can do is teach, and often not at a high paying rate or with a lot of protection. Your degree is also mostly useless to most industries, with exception to the book industry. And having an MFA is not at all an automatic “get published” free card. Most people don’t get published, so the MFA itself is really only useful if you want to teach creative writing, not if you want to be a published writer. The MFA also rarely offers anything you can’t get elsewhere for free (some programs are exceptional, though, and offer things that you can’t buy elsewhere).

This is why I chose not to go into creative writing for my degree. I want to be able to get a job when I graduate (I’ll have a PhD. hopefully). Creative writing couldn’t make me a strong enough guarantee. That said, I still write frequently and submit. I never gave up on my writing, just put some of my time aside to do career things.

And that’s all I have to say on that.